A little bird told me Shannon likes Danny Langsdorf
Who knows how much weight to put into the rumor, but I've been told that Randy Shannon is high on Danny Langsdorf.Langsdorf is currently the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Oregon State. He's been with the Beavers since 2004 and before that, spent some time in the CFL and with the New Orleans Saints. During his tenure at OSU, the Beavers have ranked in the top ten in teh nation for passing yardage each year.
This talk of Langsdorf goes against the 'inside scoop' so many others are reporting, with all their signs pointing to an NFL assistant as the next Miami OC.
Personally, I don't know much about Langsdorf but I did watch Oregon State's offense stick it to Southern Cal earlier this year.
I also watched them muster up a 3-0 win over Pittsburgh in this year's Sun Bowl, though in fairness all everything tailback Jacquizz Rodgers - the hero in the upset of the top-ranked Trojans - was sidelined.
Rodgers also missed the season-ending showdown with Oregon, where OSU lost and played their way right out of a Rose Bowl berth.
Langsdorf used a healthy dose of the run and the pass in the few Beavers games I watched this year and could be a good addition to The U, if this is the direction Shannon goes.
There are a few schools of though regarding the hiring of an offensive coordinator.
First is to go out and hire a big name or up and comer. Someone like Gus Malzhan, who Auburn threw some big cash at to lure away from Tulsa. The plus, you're getting what looks like a solid OC. The negative, you're getting a guy who will quickly climb the coaching ladder and probably won't stick around too long.
When an assistant coach gets "hot" he's like the prettiest girl in the bar. Everyone is in pursuit and it makes it hard to settle on just one suitor, with so many offers.
These guys are usually in the college game as NFL up and comers aren't coming back down to the college game for anything less than a head coaching gig, i.e. Rob Chudzinski. No way the Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator takes a pay decrease and step back career-wise to return to his alma mater. Only way Chud is back at The U is the day Shannon is out.
Second option is to find a retread. Someone who has bounced around. Former collegiate head coaches who wind up as NFL assistants and are still putting in their work as a #2 guy so the can someday work their way back to the top. Some of these guys are damaged goods, while others simply caught some bad breaks.
Dirk Koetter fits this mold, as do a few other NFL assistants who have had their names tossed around as of late.
Third is to find that diamond in the rough. An up and comer before he's earned the title, 'up and comer'. Basically, a Malzhan-type a few years back before he became a household name.
Could Langsdorf be that guy? Oregon State has quietly put together a few 9-4 seasons, while mustering up enough to go toe-to-toe with Southern Cal, beating them two of their past three meetings.
If not Langsdorf, is there another up and comer out there that Shannon can spot, before all the big money, big time programs find him and make him a financial offer he can't refuse?
In the end, no one knows what Randy is going to do. This is just a name I heard, so I'll pass it along. I'm not pretending to have any "scoop" and I'm not saying I'm hearing this from "many sources".
I know a few guys in the know and I respect what they tell me. Sometimes they're spot on and other times they're way off. That said, this is what one of them told me today, so I'm telling U.





















26 Comments:
Interesting.
I am not too familiar with Danny Langsdorf, but the more I think about it Oregon State's offense has looked good the few times I've seen them.
They looked like hell at Penn State, but that was a tough road game. I too watched the USC game and they were mixing it up and making that Trojans' defense look mortal.
We'll see. Curious to see how this plays out. Thanks for reporting!
Big Rich
Langsdorf doesnt make sense because he doesn't run the traditional pro-set that Randy wants. Or am I mistaken about that?
canes213 - Only Randy knows what Randy wants.
All I know is that I was informed today that it was a 'legit rumor' and that Shannon has "done his homework" in regards to Langsdorf.
What that means in the long run, I don't know. Just passing along what I've heard from a reputable friend or "source" as others would say.
With regard to recruiting when will Shannon need to name the OC to help make sure the offensive players verbal commits translate into reality on signing day. I'm especially concerned about Bryce Brown. Is having his brother at the U enough to keep him there?
thanks allCanes...keep the news coming!!
Thanks for keeping me looking forward to reading your bolg daily!!!...hope the gaytors get POUNDED tonight.
I'm not sure who Randy is going to select. I do know it will be a crucial decision. Chris, have you heard anything regarding Norm Chow? I know he’s at UCLA, but Shannon and Norm are close associates I’ve heard.
Hocutt seems content to let him fulfill his four year contract. Win or lose it seems Randy will be here through the 2010 season.
With that said, let me play AD for a moment. If I was Hocutt I too would leave Randy alone to continue to build a solid foundation, with great recruits and change the image of UM football to that of a very disciplined program.
All of this creates a more appealing head coaching job/atmosphere. This would allow me the time to continue to fundraise in an effort to pay that big time coach should it come to that. I say that, as if by chance Randy can right the ship and win the ACC or Orange Bowl, he proves he’s the man for the job long term.
Otherwise I have my eyes set squarely on Tommy Tuberville. He went through the ranks at the University of Miami, beginning as graduate assistant and ending as defensive coordinator in 1993 and winning the national championship three times during his tenure there (1986–1994).
Anyway, AD fantasy over.
Tommy will be a hot commodity in the coming years so I’m sure he’ll be gone. I just know Auburn was foolish to let him go (force him out) and he is a great coach.
But if Randy doesn't become a great one, and soon, a great one will soon be attracted to what's taking place in Coral Gables.
Chris, have you heard anything regarding Norm Chow? I know he’s at UCLA, but Shannon and Norm are close associates I’ve heard.
I've heard nothing about Norm and can't see any scenario where that happens. He's at UCLA, back in So Cal where's he's comfortable. Working with Neweasel and rebuilding the program so they can go toe-to-toe with the USC dynasty he helped build.
It makes zero sense that Chow would leave UCLA one year into the rebuilding to come to Miami to rebuild. No sense at all.
Otherwise I have my eyes set squarely on Tommy Tuberville. He went through the ranks at the University of Miami, beginning as graduate assistant and ending as defensive coordinator in 1993 and winning the national championship three times during his tenure there (1986–1994).
I don't think TT will ever be the guy at Miami. If for some reason Shannon failed, I could see a Rob Chudsinzki getting his shot at HC... depending where his career goes between now and then.
Tommy was part of Miami back in the day, but over the last 16 years he's become more of an SEC guy and seems to fit in the south. I don't see his schtick working at The U anymore... but that's just me.
I don't think Auburn was foolish to get rid of him. Sometimes relationships run their course. The fact they were courting Bobby Petrino a few years back shows there is some bad blood between the AD and TT and has been for a while.
Randy has two more years to turn it around and in that time, I believe he will. Bill Young is a solid DC and if Randy can score a solid OC, he'll have a solid staff and can focus on being CEO and recruiting like a madman.
That might just be enough to succeed at Miami. Let's get back to out-talenting the competition.
Jorge Sedano from 790 The Ticket here in Miami is reporting that his sources from U of Miami are saying he's about to get an extension and the University is looking at this as a high priority and they're going to opebn the wallets to bring someone.
I was reading the Herald earlier about some of our recruits, and I don't understand us taking on 'project' players especially linemen, when we need immediate help. That is if the evaluation was accurate. We need guys who are going to compete and make a difference, not just some body on the scout team.
I don't know much about the OSU guy other than seeing a few games, so we'll see when the trigger is pulled I guess. It seems like we're sort of hand tied on who we get at any position on our staff at any time due to what we pay compared to other schools. Just look at the new OC at Washington getting $1 million per season. It was reported we're offering 250k. How can you bring in the best coaches like that? It would have to be an up-and-comer or diamond in the rough. but if he has the right philosophy then who cares. it's OC #4 to see if he can kick-start this machine.
-Columbus Cane
I didnt really follow O.State much but the game against USC I have to give it to him..he didnt leave the run and just kept pounding..something Nix never seemed to do...he never found what worked and stuck with it
Jorge Sedano from 790 The Ticket is a DOUCHE BAG! HAHAHahahahahahaaaaaaa
Ken Tysiac of the Charlotte Observer is now on the blackball list. Here are his predictions for the ACCC next season. You’ll notice we are the only team that he blatantly bashes:
1. Georgia Tech: The Yellow Jackets’ defensive front won’t be nearly as formidable, but this team will be scary on offense in its second year in the flexbone under Paul Johnson. Forget the blowout Chick-fil-A Bowl loss to LSU, which had almost a month to prepare. Teams only get a week to get ready for the option during the season.
2. Virginia Tech: The Hokies will have Frank Beamer coaching a returning backfield of Tyrod Taylor and Darren Evans. That formula was good enough to win the Orange Bowl, and it should keep Virginia Tech in contention again.
3. North Carolina: Assuming Hakeem Nicks leaves for the NFL, the Tar Heels will miss him almost as much as the 2009-10 basketball team will miss Tyler Hansbrough. But North Carolina still has a quality quarterback returning in T.J. Yates and a lot of speed on defense.
4. Virginia: If quarterback Jameel Sewell returns as expected from academic suspension, underrated coach Al Groh will find a way to get the Cavaliers into bowl contention. New offensive coordinator Gregg Brandon will install the spread offense to take advantage of Sewell’s run-pass skills.
5. Miami: No matter who gets the offensive coordinator job, he will be an upgrade over Patrick Nix. But when a transferring quarterback (Robert Marve) says he can’t play for Coach Randy Shannon, there’s something wrong at the U., whose results are falling short of the level of talent that’s being recruited.
6. Duke: Thaddeus Lewis will be one of the best quarterbacks in the ACC again, and tackle Vince Oghobaase’s return should bolster a solid defensive front. But the Blue Devils’ problems in the secondary aren’t going to magically disappear in the offseason
Off the subject again:
Does is get any worse than this:
Oklahoma and the Florida Haters in the NC game! Either way it goes, one of the Canes sworn enemies will win the title in our stadium! Sickening!
Keep the news comming, but this is bad news. Langsdorf's offense looked like crap against Pittsburgh. PITTSBURGH not to be mistaken with a good defense. He has some accomplishments, resume looks like Nix.
Why does Shannon get 4 years to turn it around? Why does Miami need to go back to "out talenting" people? Do you realize that isn't going to happen anymore in today's college football? How about some actual coaching?
quiKeep the news comming, but this is bad news. Langsdorf's offense looked like crap against Pittsburgh. PITTSBURGH not to be mistaken with a good defense. He has some accomplishments, resume looks like Nix.
Jose, you have to do your homework, hoss.
Oregon State was without their all-everything tailback Jacquizz Rodgers for their final two games -- a loss against Oregon and a 3-0 snoozer against Pittsburgh.
Rodgers had 1,253 yards and 11 touchdowns in 11 games this year. He absolutely balled for OSU this year.
Conversely, the Beavers totalled 80 and 89 yards on the ground against Oregon and Pitt. The running game was non-existent.
You can't trash a coordinator when he doesn't have his biggest offensive weapon available.
Why does Shannon get 4 years to turn it around?
I don't know... maybe because the program was at it's 30-year low point when he took over, replacing the first lame duck Miami coach to be fired in three decades?
Butch Davis needed SIX years to get to 11-1. He dealt with probation, but also took over a team that finsihed 1994 with a 10-2 record and #3 ranking.
The team Shannon inherited talent-wise wasn't quite as bad as the 1997 team... but they weren't much better.
Miami didn't get to 7-6 in 2006 by accident. It was void of any WR talent in 2007 by accident. This year's upperclassmen linebackers and secondary didn't suck by accident. It took several years of incompetence to get as bad as it is.
When you're that void of talent, a new coach needs 3-4 years of his own talent to right the ship.
Why does Miami need to go back to "out talenting" people? Do you realize that isn't going to happen anymore in today's college football? How about some actual coaching?
Miami doesn't NEED to go back to out-talenting people. I'm not saying to simply RELY on that, but it'd sure as hell be nice to have the type of TALENT that USC does -- where superior players sure make head and assistant coaches look smart.
Rob Chudzinski calls a a three yard dump pass in 2002 and it goes 70-yards when Willis McGahee catches it. Call that play this year and Graig Cooper is getting stuffed for a one-yard gain.
That ain't coaching, brother. It's execution.
Yes, Miami needs actual coaches. It has one in Bill Young, who will look great when he has MORE TALENT. On offense, Shannon needs to find a guy who can be Young's offensive counterpart.
Shannon can then play CEO, recruit away and play the role of head coach. He doesn't have to be as hands on during the game when he has capable coordinators.
You sure sound like a Shannon hater, so let me tell you what I've told the rest -- you better get used to Randy. Miami ain't a big time, big money program. No one else wanted this gig, so he stepped up. Big money guy aren't coming to Miami. They're going to big schools with big money and big time facilities.
Miami has to make due with what it has -- so we all need to deal with it.
If you think the Wetzel article is rough, check out this garbage from ESPN.com:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3815468&sportCat=ncf
stuff like this article just pisses me off.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3815468&sportCat=ncf
so let me get this straight.. it's about the players and execution (your example of chud calling a dump pass to mcgahee), except for the case of pat nix, then it's about the play calling and the play caller?
so let me get this straight.. it's about the players and execution (your example of chud calling a dump pass to mcgahee), except for the case of pat nix, then it's about the play calling and the play caller?
No, you're not getting it straight.
I gave one example of one play. Chud's body of work was obviously good enough to get him to the Chargers as a TE coach and to the Browns as an eventual OC. Let's look back in a few years and see where the 'great' Patrick Nix goes from here.
Chud was a good OC. He wasn't great, but he was good. His legacy at Miami seems to grow as the year's pass, as fans with revisionist history remember the good but forget the low points (Fiasco Bowl, 31-7 at VT, 10-6 against Tennessee).
First and foremost, it's talent. Superior talent can make average or good playcalling look genius.
Who has the most talent in the game this decade? USC. Is Pete Carroll a genius? Hardly. Dude simply found his niche. He is a HELL of a recruiter and had some great assistants.
If it's NOT talent, then how the hell does USC go from an offense run by Norm Chow, Steve Sarkesian and Lane Kiffin.... to Sarkesian/Kiffin... to just Sarkesian WITHOUT MISSING A BEAT??
How does USC just reload year after year? Palmer to Leinart to Booty to Sanchez? Reloading at running back... wideout... linebacker... both o and d-line.
Coaching is part of the equation, obviously -- but your job is a hell of a lot easier when you have the best horses.
Even when USC has lost this decades, besides the Rose Bowl against Texas, every loss was to a 'lesser' team where the Trojans came out flat.
With their B-game they still beat just about everybody. When they fell to the likes of Stanford or Oregon State, it was their C-game --- and they STILL almost won those games.
Back to Patrick Nix, a bum is a bum. It doesn't take and Xs and Os guru to see what he was all about.
Again, let's watch where his career goes from here. His future track record will speak for itself.
Jusy like all the folk that went back to Coker's 24-0 start, the fact he won a title and was a good man... where's his career gone since Miami canned him over two years ago?
Exactly.
FUC|< GAY-TOR NATION & TE-BITCH!!!
I hate UF of course but right now they have set the bar. We have to reach where they are right now. I think Urban Myth is a slick, snake oil saleman, but he's getting results right now. We're building the foundation right now, but it will be harder to get certain key Florida recruits with UF hitting on all cylinders. Shannon has his work cut out for him, although I think he is on his way. We have to start getting nasty and get some emotion back in this program. I loko forward to Signing Day and the '09 season already.
-Columbus Cane
i hate the gaytors
The initial report claims Oregon State has had been top ten passing for each of the years since 2004. Someone should do some fact checking on those bogus numbers, I did. As a rival to Oregon State, I know that if that had happened, Oregon fans would never hear the end of it.
Actual facts from the NCAA website for passing yardage.
2008 30th
2007 87th
2006 24th
2005 10th
2004 7th
Not to mention, all those quarterbacks that Oregon State has put into the NFL. Oh wait, it's Oregon that does that.
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