Anti-Miami contingent makes presence known
Miami fans are oft knocked for being so quick to claim there's an anti-Hurricane contingent out there. Canes are thought to not only be bandwagon, but thin-skinned and quick to shout "conspiracy".Most notably it's due to the negative press UM receives - continuing to pay for thirty year old sins and a passe 'thuggish' image - while both UF and FSU seem to fly under the radar as the arrests pile up.
The Canes always seem to be front page news for the wrong reasons - Robert Marve's off-season transfer, a Randy Shannon imposed suspension when a player misses study hall, etc. Anything to give the Cane haters some fuel that Miami will always hang on to that Thug U moniker.
The BCS standings were released this past weekend and while it's only mid-October, you could simply drop the "C" right now and just call it the BS standings as the Canes slid in No. 10. Miami is 5-1 after playing arguably the hardest stretch in college football this season, yet still trails some less impressive one-loss teams and some loss-free paper champions.
Does anybody really believe that Miami deserves to be behind Boise State, Cincinnati, Iowa, TCU or LSU? Seriously?
Florida and Alabama? Sure. It's the SEC, it's two powerhouse programs and they're both undefeated. Give them the top two spots... for now. Same for Texas, sitting 6-0 and having been a Big XII staple the past few years, a BCS winner last season, a Heisman contender at quarterback and one failed interception away from making last year's title game. If we're going to implement and put weight into preseason polls, the the current top three deserves to remain where they are as undefeateds.
From there, it gets shady.
Boise State? Please. Wins over Oregon, Miami (OH), Fresno State, Bowling Green and UC Davis before struggling against lowly Tulsa? Show me which computers are favoring this faux program and I'll show you an all time error message.
Cincinnati? A nice win over South Florida, but the rest of the schedule reads Rutgers, Southeast Missouri State, Oregon State, Fresno State and Miami (OH).
Iowa took down Penn State, but other than that a rather lackluster schedule with wins over Iowa State, Arizona, Arkansas State, Michigan, Wisconsin and a season-opening nailbiter against 'mighty' Northern Iowa. The Hawkeyes inexplicably jumped from No. 11 to No. 7 in the AP poll (No. 6 in the initial BCS poll) after a ten-point win over nobody Wisconsin.
TCU beat Virginia, Texas State, Clemson, Southern Methodist, Air Force and Colorado State to hold down the No. 8 slot in the BCS, while 5-1 LSU sits at No. 9.
The Canes are clinging to the No. 8 spot in the current AP poll, which is most frustrating - and which also proves the media bias, for those who simply feel it's a myth.
If there's no anti-Miami contingent, how do you explain some of the media members voting the Canes so low? Twenty-seven AP voters have UM ranked No. 9 or lower.
Tom Mulhern (Wisconsin State Journal) has Miami ranked No. 14. Ahead of the Canes, he inexplicably lists Georgia Tech, Oregon, Oklahoma State and Penn State.
Three voters ranked Miami No. 12, two at No. 11, twelve at No. 10 and nine at No. 9.
Ironically enough, some well-known college football enthusiasts seem to think highly of the Canes. ESPN's Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit both have the Canes sitting pretty at No. 5. Two non-household names have Miami ranked No. 4 (Teddy Feinberg) and No. 3 (Jon Wilner).
Tom Hart of CBS College Sports has UM ranked No. 6 while ABC's Craig James feels a No. 7 ranking is fair.
While thirty-two AP voters ranked Miami No. 8 or higher, the average goes down when twenty-seven biased fools rank the Canes so low. If AP voters are ranking the Canes low, what does that say for the biased coaches who might not give Miami a fair shake? Combine out-there computer rankings, crunch all these numbers in an oft-wrong computer and the No. 10 BCS rank is explained.
At what point will AP voters be held accountable? When does someone step in and make the Tom Mulherns of the world justify their bogus No. 14 ranking? Each and every year teams are screwed by those in the media with a bias or axe to grind.
How did a one-loss Florida State best a one-loss Miami team in the final regular season BCS standing in 2000? The Canes knock off the top-ranked Noles and No. 2 Virginia Tech, yet FSU heads to the title game?
How does Oklahoma back into the championship game in 2003 after losing the Big XII title game? How do you justify a conference running up getting a shot at a title a month after getting throttled 35-7 by a then-three loss, thirteenth-ranked Kansas State team?
Why did computers prefer a one-loss Florida team in 2006 instead of a one-loss Michigan squad?
Why did a one-loss Oklahoma team trek to Miami last year to face Florida instead of a one-loss Texas team who beat them earlier in the year?
Media bias. AP voters with preconceived notions and an agenda are to blame as every vote counts. Ranking a team too low in the AP is bogus, especially when the AP represents one of two post-season trophies. Where's the validity?
The Bowl Championship Series is here to stay (for now), so at least attempt to fix a fixable glitch; hold AP voters accountable. Set a standard.
For Miami, the mantra remains the same; one at a time. Keep winning. Ignore the polls. Let is all come out in the wash.
Regarding Tom Mulhern, someone revoke that yahoo's credentials immediately.
(Note: Want to gilve Mulhern a piece of your mind? Feel free... tmulhern@madison.com)





















39 Comments:
Chris,
there will always be people that are envious of what that small private university has accomplished.
And in the overall scheme of things Miam has done okay. Some National Championships, a few NFL players, couple Hall of Famers, pretty fair television audiences, nice graduation rates and a not a bad team and coaching staff this year lead by a pretty fair fella named Randy Shannon.As for those that can't find a way in their heart to give Miami their just do, then we will go on without them and do the best we can in the classroom and on the gridiron and always wish our opponents whether on the field or in the pressbox the very best as we would want them to wish for us.
God bless,
John Adamson
its absolutely rediculous these standings. on top of it, there's nothing that can be done to fix it. no debate, no argument, no ?'s wont matter in any of this, and whats done is done.
the bcs is going to continue to screw teams over and the people who actually vote to rank teams should be reevaluated every game. Its nonsense where miami is at
I agree wholeheartedly.... Boise State is a outright joke and I can't wait to see who gets to stomp them and send them packing after whatever BCS game they are handed. They are just a "good story" and something out of the norm.
Cincy I dont mind as much as the other, but just like you said they play nobody on top of getting rolled by VT last year.
Iowa....WTF...how in the hell do they jump that high! Guess the AP voters must be getting high is the only way I can fathom that garbage.
USC = a washington loss and signature wins against the little irishmen and overhyped T. Pryor. What a flippn joke... If the media isn't hangin on Tebow's sack, they are spending time hanging from Pete Carrol's. I believe a loss to Vt on a bad day is not quite as bad as losing to Washington. Besides, if we played VT tomorrow, I like our chances...
TCU - Do I need to even say more...
LSU- Great D but a horrible offense... Just another biased SEC situation..
Last but not least... Too the gentleman behind me at the UCF game yellin "this is my house"! after they scored their measly 7 points .... Whos house is it now? Honestly, did you really even think you had a chance... nitey nite little knights... better luck next time.
so true. this man preaches.
For those put Miami below #7, I doubt if they know Miami university (OH) and the University of Miami (FL) are indeed two different schools.
you do realize the AP has absolutely no bearing on the BCS right?
Hated by many, loved by few, WE are the U
The AP poll does not play a part in the BCS Standings.
The BCS does not use the AP poll . . .
The only human polls used in the BCS Standings are the Coaches and the Harris Poll.
Since we're ranked lower in both of those polls, I think your anger would be better directed at them, and not the more accurately ranked AP poll, IMO.
This article sums up the issues very well. I can't even imagine what an argument for Boise or TCU being ranked higher than the Canes would sound like. How could you say it with a straight face? I think Iowa is a tough team and I've been impressed each time I've seen them. But USC with a humiliating loss and unimpressive/less impressive wins? Outrageous!
You Miami fans are ridiculous. Replace "Miami" with GT or VT in this article and it reads the same. There is an ACC bias. No one gives a crap about Miami. Quit thinking you are so awesome as to have your own "We hate Miami" club. If anything, you are lucky to have ESPN jump on your bandwagon the second you do anything. Just keep winning and let things work themselves out. We all agree Boise, TCU, and Cincy don't belong in the top 10 but it has absolutely nothing to do with Miami. Typical...
Although the AP Poll isn't used in the BCS, it is the only poll that releases weakly votings of its members. The coaches poll and Harris poll do not (except the coaches break down their voting for the last poll). The Harris poll is a joke this week (mirrors the BCS standings), and somehow has almost twice as much value as the coaches poll.
Sent my comments to him. He needs his head examined!
Allright AllCanes...lets not get ahead of ourselves. We cannot forget what happened against VaTech. I still think a healthy Miami is better than pokey-hokies but the score is in the books and we got whUpped. I would love to be ranked top 5 but at this point I am just happy to be 5-1 and still in contention. I say we play out, win out, and then if we still get shut out of the BCS we dig those fatigues out of the back of the locker and go kick some corporate BCS butt.
I feel ya on the BCS standings...
The one thing I noticed though, is that it looked as if the mathematically genius that the bcs computer is wanted to place all unbeaten teams ahead of all one loss teams.
I can agree with that in a sense. But if that is what the computer was aiming for, why place 1 loss USC, who lost to WASHINGTON, ahead of TCU?
And LSU doesn't even deserve to be ahead of Miami either.
Hey, first BCS rankings. What did you expect? Oh well, let's see what happens next Saturday.
Uh, I hate to bring this to your attention; however, the anal reaming perpetrated upon the Canes by Virginia Tech certainly does not help your cause.
As for the alleged "media conspiracy" against the Canes, I'd recommend getting some sort of brain therapy. Nobody ever said life is fair.
Keep winning your games and good things will happen.
wow those fans are crazy in that pic!
Can someone post that next to spongebob in the canes locker room to get them motivated for a scary clemson team pleaseeee
We just need to go out and be Us. We do us, let them do them. Clemson is at bat. We focus on sending the Tigers back to podunk U with their tails tucked between their legs and keep on rolling. As the wins keep piling up, the media WILL respect the U. Miami WILL get the respect it deserves, by god, Miami WILL get the respect it deserves.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THIS U!!!!!!!
If there's no anti-Miami contingent, how do you explain some of the media members voting the Canes so low? Twenty-seven AP voters have UM ranked No. 9 or lower.
that ass whooping we got from VT didn't help.
also, and it's been mentioned.. the AP poll has NO bearing on the BCS.. what's killing us is the coaches poll, and the fact that our really tough schedule to start the year includes a 2-4 FSU team and a 3-3 OU team.. which makes those W's look not as good.
i don't think USC should be ahead of us as a 1 loss team, but their loss on a last second field goal without their starting QB, is much more forgiveable (in the eyes of the pollsters) than that drubbing VT handed us.
Not only is Iowa better at football (read: undefeated and didn't get spanked by 24 against Va Tech), they're also better at:
1) reading at higher than a first-grade level and
2) dodging bullets in parking lots after practice.
Miami sucks. Iowa rulez. Sorry for the pwnage, boyz.
the one on the list that really gets me is lsu!!!! while ranked 4 they beat with a little sec refereeing then 18 Georgia(props to richt) then still at 4 lose at home to The gayturds who we all know are number 1(pains me to type it but this is the final year) Miami on the other hand while unranked beat our over ranked 18 rival FSU in tally, then moving on while 20 beat 14 GT handily, lose in the worst weather I have ever seen at another rival 11 VT while we are an overhyped 9 then come back at 17 and beat a then 8 OK. SEC my a#*.
Yes, its complete BS, and we know it, but there isnt a damn thing we can do about it. The only thing we can do is handle our businees and win the rest of our games. Everything else will fall into place. I know....hell everyone knows the Canes deserve to be ranked higer than #10 in the BCS, but I'll take it right now. Its a hell of alot better then where we been the past several years. But dont worry guys, everything is gonna work out!!
This blog continues to call for a playoff. Enough speculation ans biased opinions. The gators have a tough conference schedule but, won't play any tough non-conference games for sake of sucking the BCS d__k!
All we can ask of the Canes is to win out and let the chips fall where they may.
How can your thoughts be taken seriously at all when you're railing against the AP poll causing the BCS ranking, but the BCS doesn't use the AP poll at all?
NO one wants to see Iowa in any aspect. Iowa is not impressive THEY are a joke. The team is big and slow. Put them on the field with any team speed and its over!!! I dont watch any of the early NCAA games because they usually have this wasted match up of Iowa vs Wis or Minn vs Mich st. This league is overrated and a waste of the BCS auto bid. But as for the others I wont get started The U must play out and win and then the rest will take care of itself. Like UM did in the past win all your games and the those who dislike you have no power in their vote.
Hated by many, loved by few, WE are the U
The loss to Virginia Tech has nothing to do with the bias against Miami. The Canes are 5-1 and some solid wins should negate that lone loss. Point being, Miami needs to get more credit for three strong wins than discredit for one loss.
Miami is a legit No. 5 to No. 8 team, based on where other people lie in the polls.
I thought the AP was factored into the BCS. Mistake on my part to write that it impacted BCS standings. That said, the AP poll is still out of whack and there is an AP champion every year - so it's basically the second most valuable poll and it's full of biased morons.
The Canes are getting screwed actually 2 ways..
1)The voters, as you explained earlier. Anyone that has the Canes ranked lower than 12 is ridiculous. Any lower than 15, should get their vote taken away!
2)The computers. Canes went 3-1 in a gauntlet of a schedule. BUT losses by OU and FSU after a UM win have caused the computers to move them down. We gotta hope Those first 4 opponents win! (I take that back, we want VT to lose once more!)
I agree with some of your observations in the rankings. BSU, TCU should def. be below UM. USC lost to an unranked team should put them behind UM also. But an undefeated team in a BCS conference should probably be ahead of them, unfortunately the Big East is a BCS conference. (Undefeated Iowa has wins against 13 PSU, 21 UW, and 22 AU. Not a bad resume) Heres what the BCS should be right now.
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Iowa
5. Cincinnati (unfortunately)
6. Miami
7. LSU
8. USC
9. Boise
10.TCU
would you like some cheese with that wine?
To the genius from Iowa...
1) Miami is ranked 50th nationally, while Iowa is 71st
2) You basically just said there are a lot more shootings on your campus, so, well played big guy
Give it a week or two. Things should work itself out. If the Canes keep winning, they'll keep moving up.
Anothrup80 - While I fully agree, it still needs to be acknowledged that any AP voter who has Miami at No. 14 is a biased moron with an agenda. There is absolutely ZERO reason that Georgia Tech is ranked a spot ahead of Miami in anybody's poll.
" Anonymous said...
Not only is Iowa better at football (read: undefeated and didn't get spanked by 24 against Va Tech), they're also better at:
1) reading at higher than a first-grade level and
2) dodging bullets in parking lots after practice.
Miami sucks. Iowa rulez. Sorry for the pwnage, boyz."
Um, excuse me, anonymous guy who posted that comment above... don't you think you look like a massive hypocrit to insult a school for its academics and then spell "rules" with a "z"? Clearly you graduated magna cum laude from Iowa.
The only thing Iowa is good at is cow tipping and getting fresh with their own sisters. Grow some balls and post a name when you toss insults around.
Couldn't happen to a classier program. Looks like it really isn't all about the "U!"
Awww, Anonymous... how do you really feel? I'm sure you were the type of guy chest-thumping a year ago that Miami was done and now the Canes are back in the top ten, hoss.
Nice take, by the way. What "couldn't happen to a classier program?" - the fact that a biased AP voter refuses to give a program their due?
Nice commentary from a 'classy' opposing fan.
Can you update us on injuries this week? Whose back? Whose out for good?
Thanks - keep up the good work.
Hey allcanes, I would hope that the bias thing is not the case, but it's pretty hard to argue... But this is only the first BCS ranking, let's revisit this in about 2 weeks and see where we're sitting.. As long as we keep winning we'll be up a to around 6 or 7.. With a couple key people losing, maybe higher!
We all know Boise State and TCU have no business being in the top 20, let alone the top 10. Obviously strength of schedule needs to be added in more in the formula. Those teams play one team anyone outside of their conference would recognize. Boise St beats Oregon in the first game of the season at home and now they deserve to be in the BCS? Come on. Yeah, any team can be beaten on a given day (OU, and Alabama), but when you play nobody all season it's pretty easy to be undefeated. Being rewarded for that is just ridiculous. I will always call for this to be setteled on the field and have always wanted a playoff. No, the regular season is not a playoff. Right now, the BCS system is a subjective beauty contest, with biases and agendas making large impacts on who plays and who doesn't.
-Columbus Cane
I read on cnn that there is a group trying to get rid of the bowl system heres the link http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/20/pac-formed-to-push-for-bcs-playoff/
and good riddance bowl system
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